[luvMyBRT]

Also make sure no more than 2 raw eggs per week. Raw eggs decrease the ability to absorb certain minerals so it's not healthy to give more than 2 per week.

Can you please provide the study or link to where you got this information?

 

[cast71]

so y give any at all especially when there are other sources of protein out there....doesnt sound liek something i would want shane eating??



also if dogs are carnivores and they are lactose intolerant why are eggs good for them. eggsa re dairy i thought

Eggs are not dairy. Anything that contains milk in it is dairy. Eggs have protein and vitamins in it. They are healthy for your dog. It's usually in kibble as well, but raw eggs are much healthier. They contain vitamin B complex, which is very good for your dogs skin and coat:biggrin:

 

[Penny & Maggie's Mom]

Dairy is milk, cheese etc.... coming from cows. Common eggs that we use of course are from chickens.

 

[BoxerMommie]

Can you please provide the study or link to where you got this information?

It's a pretty common fact. Feel free to speak with any dog nutritionist and you'll get the same advice.

Here's one place it states it (you may have to scroll through until you get to "raw eggs"

Dangerous Foods That Dogs Should Never Eat - WebMD Slideshow

Feeding Dogs Eggs: Is Raw Safe or is Cooked Better?

Toxic Foods and Plants for Dogs

If you want anymore feel free to do a Google search on dogs and raw eggs.

 

[cast71]

Ahhhh mannnnnnnnnn beer is # 3 on the first link. Just joking, I'm the one who drinks das bier

That first and third site is whack! It states not to give your dog raw meat and bones

 

[BoxerMommie]

Ahhhh mannnnnnnnnn beer is # 3 on the first link. Just joking, I'm the one who drinks das bier

That first site is whack! It says not to give your dog raw meat and bones

Well that's your opinion. Many out there still do not think dogs should be given raw meat and fish (btw it says not to give bones because they can splinter which is absolutly true for COOKED bones). I'm not saying I'm one of them, just saying that it's one of those "debatable topics"...mainly having to do with bacteria. I don't think the site is "whack" as everything else it mentions is absolutely true, it's just a differing opinion on the raw meat and raw fish. (The bones it mentions are cooked, not raw it doesn't mention anything about raw bones and they are absolutely correct on the bones they mention not to give).

 

[luvMyBRT]

Sorry, but I have to agree with cast on this one. Whack.

It says the main problem with feeding raw eggs is the salmonella. Well if that was true, no one should be feeding raw!

It also says that eggs contain an enzyme called avidin which decreases the absorption of certain vitamins. In all my research on barf diets I found something that said that this is only true if you were to ONLY feed the yolk or the whites of the egg (I can't remember exactly which one), but when feeding a whole egg it's not a problem. I'm going to go and look back and see if I can find where it states that....

I wasn't asking for random internet sites with someones opinion on the topic of eggs. I was asking for an actual study where someone PROVED the statement that "you should only feed your dog two raw eggs a week" was true. :smile:

 

[BoxerMommie]

Sorry, but I have to agree with cast on this one. Whack.

It says the main problem with feeding raw eggs is the salmonella. Well if that was true, no one should be feeding raw!

It also says that eggs contain an enzyme called avidin which decreases the absorption of certain vitamins. In all my research on barf diets I found something that said that this is only true if you were to ONLY feed the yolk or the whites of the egg (I can't remember exactly which one), but when feeding a whole egg it's not a problem. I'm going to go and look back and see if I can find where it states that....

I wasn't asking for random internet sites with someones opinion on the topic of eggs. I was asking for an actual study where someone PROVED the statement that "you should only feed your dog two raw eggs a week" was true. :smile:

Well the "actual study" for me came from a holistic vet who was also an animal nutritionist as well as 2 other animal nutritionists with degrees in it. So no I don't have a study sitting in front of me, but they were from reputable sources. I *believe* it's the absorpotion of vitamin B but don't hold me to that 100%. It's typically recommended to not feed more than 2 raw eggs per week...you can cook them without issue if you want to give eggs (gives some dogs gas though so forewarning here).

Feel free to do what you wish, it's your pet, but feel free to do your own research. I'm not going to waste my time looking up studies to post here when I've already been given the information by more than one professional. I'm sorry I just don't have that kind of time, if you do more power to you. I spent 2 minutes to do a short search but that's really all I have time for.

 

[luvMyBRT]

I'm not going to waste my time looking up studies to post here when I've already been given the information by more than one professional. I'm sorry I just don't have that kind of time, if you do more power to you. I spent 2 minutes to do a short search but that's really all I have time for.

Hey...your the one that posted the statement as fact, not me. I was just interested in learning more about it. I feel that if someone is going to post that type of information they *should* be able to show their resources to back up their statements.

 

[cast71]

I didn't mean to start any kind of heated debate, so I will apoligize for my term "whack". I was kind of in a joking mood at the time:biggrin: I like to joke alot, but I am serious when I have to be. I do appreciate any time any of the members from DFC can give. According to one of those articles it states it's the raw egg whites that contain that enzyme. I give yolks because we share. He gets the yolks and I get the eggwhites. Sometimes I get both:biggrin: I am interested if the whole egg is a problem or not?

Experts warn against raw egg whites which contain an enzyme, avidin, that interferes with the metabolism of fats, glucose, amino acids and energy, and decreases the absorption of the B vitamin, biotin. A biotin deficiency can lead to skin inflammation, hair loss, and even stunted growth in young pups.

 

[nash_try]

@BoxerMommie

As u suggested, i keep the dog food bowl in front of her 3 times a day.(cause i feed her 3 times a day)
Its Day 4 today, till now she hasn't eaten (except yesterday when she eat about 10 pieces of kibble).

She just smells it, sometimes licks the kibble 3-4 times and then walks away.

She begs for the treats, but am very firm now. No treats till she starts eating food. The thing is till now, i have included little bit of milk in every meal, so she doesn't want to have the kibble without milk. Plus so many times, she just licks off the liquid leaving behind the kibble. So wanted to stop this behavior.
Anyways this is quite new to me, a dog not eating for 4 days, and still seems alright.

Should i carry this on till day 5 or day 6?
What happens if she refuses to eat even after 5-6 days?

 

[cast71]

It's hard but stick in there. Your doing great. Do not break and add milk. Just put the food down for 15 minutes. If your dog doesn't eat or doesn't finish whats left, save it for the next meal. You might want to goto feeding 2 times a day as well. Keep it up:smile: She'll eventually eat and than eat every meal from than on. She's trying to trick you into adding stuff to her diet. Do not cater to that bad behavior. Good luck and please keep us posted.

 

[The Maverick]

can you all elaborate on the splitting of the raw and kibble? I have been adding about a 1/4 cup of raw to my dogs kibble as if it were a canned product. I am considering switching to SOJO's complete as an additive to the Oijen kibble that they are currently eating. any thoughts?

 

[cast71]

I answered you on your knew thread. Good Idea starting a new thread.

http://dogfoodchat.com/forum/showthread.php?p=59134&posted=1#post59134

 

[nash_try]

I lost , she won !!
I just kept the kibble in front of her for 6 days, 3 times a day for 15 min. She didn't eat! Couldn't starve her more. She was losing weight. Plus my family was constantly pestering me to feed her what she likes. She just doesn't like to have dry kibble. If i mix the kibble with liquid stuff, she licks off the liquid leaving behind the kibble pieces. So got this idea, i grinded the kibble in a mixer, mixed the powdered kibble in a cup of water and then she licked it completely!

The upside is, no milk in her diet now. Just kibble mixed with water.
This procedure i have tried for 2 days now and she licks the food completely. So that's the way it stays i guess.

 

[ann g]

My dog is very picky also but loves canned food mixed in. On days that he has no mix ins he'll just look at bowl and walk away. We will hold the bowl up and pretend were eating it, even making eating sounds, that does it, after about 20seconds of that we put bowl down and he eats. Good luck with your picky eater.

 

[cast71]

As long as your only adding water that's fine. Did you ever try adding water to kibble, without grinding the kibble to dust? Let the water soak in for 10 minutes and it is almost like wet food.

 

[channeledbymodem]

As long as your only adding water that's fine. Did you ever try adding water to kibble, without grinding the kibble to dust? Let the water soak in for 10 minutes and it is almost like wet food.

Agreeance, although I don't let it get soggy because the idea turns *me* off, remembering how when I ate General Mills cereals every morning I had to add just the right amount of milk and wait for it to soak in *just* the right amount of time. Is there anything worse than soggy Rice Krispies or anything better than crispy yet moist Rice Krispies?

I don't think it's any coincidence that when we were all eating cereal and milk every morning Gravy Train was a big seller. Of course any kibble can become "Gravy Train" and Merrick disingenuously promotes adding water on their bags to make "homemade" gravy (I love Merrick; they are so cheesy).

Jeez, if it were my dog before I got all tough love on his butt I'd moisten the kibble and if that didn't work I'd sling on a spoon of Pedigree or a raw egg or chop suey or whatever else was in the fridge. And if that didn't work . . . then the little brat could wait a few hours to eat again.

 

[DarDog]

nash_try, I don't know if anyone has asked this yet, but are your dog's teeth and mouth ok? Sometimes a dog may refuse to eat kibble and only eat softer food when he/she has a tooth problem, or sore teeth or mouth. Just thought I'd check :smile:

 

[cast71]

nash_try, I don't know if anyone has asked this yet, but are your dog's teeth and mouth ok? Sometimes a dog may refuse to eat kibble and only eat softer food when he/she has a tooth problem, or sore teeth or mouth. Just thought I'd check :smile:

Great point! How are your dogs teeth and gums?