Both responsible, an intact dog should NOT be tied outside, and a female in heat definitely not! Well, NO dog should be tied outside, really. But especially not dogs to create more unwanted litters.

I'd love to be able to keep Tess intact for health (not breeding) reasons.. but she's on a spay contract.

 

Considering males are fertile ALL THE TIME, and females are only fertile for a short window twice a year, it pisses me off when people don't neuter, and then don't make responsible decisions.

 

I voted that both need to take responsibility, but I'd just like to point out that males are fertile 100% of the time, whereas females are fertile, what, 20% of the time? I feel like that is somewhat relevant.

We must have been posting at the same time!

Yeah, females are fertile roughly 5-10 days MAXIMUM out of the ENTIRE year, and that's if they go into heat regularly on a every 6 month basis. It's not uncommon for females to go into heat once a year, making that more like 2-5 days out of the year.

Soooo... males 100% of the time.
Females, roughly 1-2% of the time.

 

Oh HELL YA!!

It is BOTH the female and the male who make the babies.....so yes, both the owner's faults if it happens!!!

 

I voted that both need to take responsibility, but I'd just like to point out that males are fertile 100% of the time, whereas females are fertile, what, 20% of the time? I feel like that is somewhat relevant.

 

It is DEFINITELY the responsibility of both dog owners... if your male is intact, extra precautions must be made to ensure he cannot roam. If your female is intact, extra precautions must be made to ensure she is never left alone in a situation where a male dog could appear. The blame cannot fall solely on one dog owner! If your decision is to keep your dog intact, you must be 100% sure you are doing everything possible to avoid an accidental pregnancy - if you can't do that, spay/neuter your dog! It's that simple really

 

My next will stay in tact until 2 years old, If Tobi was still in tact I would take the utmost precautions in keeping him contained... well i still do when i'm not around but even more

 

It annoys me to no end. My sister has an intact poodle as well as 2 intact girls (poodles), she has NEVER had an oopsie litter....and that's even with my dad helping her let the dogs in and out because she's living with him at the moment. I have had 2 intact males before (westie & poodle) and have had 4 intact females, never had an 'oopsie' litter. It drives me bonkers when people try to blame it on the girls owners instead of both it's a two way street, the female didn't get preggers on her own.

 

BOTH. However, it is the same with humans. While it is slowly changing, it has always been the woman who ultimately has the responsibility of birth control. I'm not saying it is fair but it is what it is. Thank God for DNA, at least for the humans. It is changing how men think! You can now prove paternity.

 

Please visit an animal shelter especially on a kill day and see what happens result of intact dogs/cats. All pet owner's are responsible whether they own males or females.

 

I think it's obvious what I voted because 100% of people voted for it, LOL! If you can't keep your dog from reproducing, you shouldn't have intact animals imo. Too many good dogs die in shelters for people to let oopsie litters keep happening.

 

I vote for both to be responsible! It takes two to tango so yep both!

 

Well, as the mother of two boys......I didn't do it all by myself! There's gotta be a male involved somewhere, somehow, sometime.

All my dogs have always been spayed/neutered. I can't trust that one of the kids / husband wouldn't let them out by mistake or let them slip out the front door one day, etc. There's no way in h&#* I'm being responsible for another litter of 'chow mix' in this world.

 

I have 6 unaltered dogs. We have never had an oops litter. If you choose not to alter your pet you should be responsible for any breedings. The problem for dogs like for people is that the female is the one actually giving birth and responsible for the life and well being of the litter, so if you own an intact female it behooves you to be hyper vigilant all the time and know exactly when she is due in season. The owner of a male should be just as vigilant but most times they are not the ones in the position of having to deal with the consequences of their negligence.

 

I have 6 unaltered dogs. We have never had an oops litter.

Good for you! It's nice to see people who can still handle intact animals. Lately it seems like most people can barely handle altered ones. :frusty: I agree with your entire post.

 

I have an intact male pit bull "type" dog (gd forbid I call him a pitty on this forum nowadays lol) and he is still intact (not by my choice). He is now two and will be neutered in a week. Yippee!

My unneutered male has never even been near a female in heat. Or an intact female for that matter, unless he met one briefly on a short trip to PetSmart or something.

NO dog that is in my care will EVER product an "oops litter".

 

Just like with us, it takes two.

 

Both. When I had an intact female I was very careful and never had any problems. Now I have a little boy who I plan to keep intact, although he'll never sire a litter. There is so way he will even get the chance to get ahold of a female.

 

I'd be interested to hear from whomever voted females only.
Though it is probably someone with a chained up beagle who has sired an oops litter or two already.

 

Dude will be 8 in November and Buck is 5 1/2 months and both are intact. While Buck has yet to show any signs of being a problem, Dude has gone 8 years without siring an oopsie litter. My parents are not the kind to spend a ton of money on a dog and just never bothered to get him neutered so, starting in 8th grade, I learned how to care for an intact male. It isn't hard. I also ended up with an exceptionally great boy. His best friend for several years was an intact female husky who wanted to do nothing but mate, but Dude (who was never allowed to be alone with her) wanted nothing to do with it. I got lucky. Being older now, that would never fly in my house. It could have happened. We could have ended up with puppies, but were very lucky.

Dude is an intact male with 100% recall and he is a male I am comfortable having off leash in a moderately controlled area. when we go to our cove, he is off leash (Buck is still learning so he is tethered next to my chair) but if anyone should desire to walk by, the leash is slipped back on not only to keep him from approaching them but so that others don't feel that they need to be nervous around him because he is off leash. Should another dog be seen even from a distance, the leash goes back on. He is a true velcro dog so he isn't going to run off, but he is very social.

I feel that every intact male should be treated individually. Females have those few days where every cell in their body is screaming at them to mate, but males don't constantly feel that urge so strongly all the time. Dude never seems to feel it at all. I'm not sure he is aware that he still has his jingle bells. Would I allow him in a pen with or anywhere near an intact female? Heck no! Do I feel that I can safely control an intact male? I have been doing so for almost 8 years now

As for my vote, I vote that both parties are to blame, however, most of the blame lies on the owner of the escapee.

 

As for my vote, I vote that both parties are to blame, however, most of the blame lies on the owner of the escapee.

But which would be considered "the escapee" considering BOTH dogs would have to be in an unsupervised, uncontrolled environment for an accidental breeding to occur?
Part of responsibly owning an in tact dog is making sure at ANY time they are fertile (males being 100% of the time- females being 1-2%) there is a physical barrier between them, and other dogs while unsupervised. For an "oops" breeding, both owners of both dogs would have to fail to do so.

 

Sorry PuppyPaws, but I was the one to vote that owners of intact females have to carry the majority of the responsibility. I ended up with an "oops" litter because the female jumped into my backyard. Yes, males are fertile 24/7 but as long as reasonable care is taken (i.e. following leash laws, proper confinement,etc) I think that the responsibility is not as "intense" as with intact females. I have seen way to many people taking their female in heat to various "group" activities, even better not even realizing their female is in heat. It's a sad fact but, if you have an intact female, you will be the one responsible for the litter's well being. So the female's owner needs to be held to a greater responsiblity of preventing this issue. After all, females are only fertile for a short time period, and if kept properly "isolated" can not be gotten preggers, no matter how many irresponsible "male" owners there are.

 

Just like people - the female is the one having the babies, so the owner of that female is going to have the expense, time, and trouble raising and getting rid of a litter of puppies while the male goes on his merry way. I bet alot of times the owner of the male has no idea he's been cavorting.

When I was younger, I spayed all females but didn't neuter the males. I figured anyone who didn't want a litter better fix their females. Now of course I fix all of them. I have never wanted baby anythings.

 

In most cases I would say that its both parties but there are a few here and there where I definitely think its the fault of the female's owner's. I've seen a couple of situations where owner's have had their female dog's off-leash on the trails while they were in heat. In both situations, the dog tied with an intact male. If someone is going to have their female off-leash in heat on the trails where they know other dogs are frequently than they should be solely responsible for the litter that results.

 

Mr. Incredible??? Why not Tinkerbell or a Disney princess?? LOL......

She looks adorable!

 

Lol, a few other breeders told me that boys underwear is more elastic and stays on/ fits them better.. and they were right! Boys size 6 fits her perfect, but they are snug and fit better not on backwards so I cut and sewed around a tail hole on the butt side, instead of taking advantage of the hole already on boys undies.
Wal Mart's only ones when I went were spiderman, or Disney pixar, so she got a 5 pack with Incredibles, cars, and toy story 3. Lol

 

Let us not also forget those who do it on purpose. I have met way too many people, (mostly in Miami), who just "had" to have a litter of their little "Buck" because he is the "coolest dog evah!!11!!!" They think it's "unfair" that he go through life not knowing what it would be like to "sire" a litter. Or they are men, (I'm not male bashing, I'm repeating FACTS from the people I have met along the way), who are hung up on nipping the old spawn creators.

These are the ones I have met while walking my hoodlums or dogsitting someone elses dog and have taken that dog to the dog park and met these types of idiots...these are some of the biggest and worst contributors to the over population because they do it on purpose.

 

I agree that having a female in heat off leash around other dogs is INCREDIBLY irresponsible, and people should NOT do it. I think perhaps in that case the females owner would be the idiot, for SURE, but the males owner should still own up to some degree.

To me having in tact dogs means they might not get all the freedoms their sterile peers have. But, I'm with you in that my males DO get to run and be dogs. Because they have their nuggets, they just don't go out of my sight if there are other dogs around that I don't know.

 

So my friend always said that his dog was "gay" (no offense to anyone here eace: )....low and behold, guess what FINALLY happened? It downright pisses me off at the ignorance of people. My friend has had his intact male around other females in heat, and he did nothing. So he ASSUMED that he wouldn't ever do it. Well, he did....and now the world will be graced with another unwanted, ooops litter :frown:

 

So my friend always said that his dog was "gay"

Do dogs even have a sexual orientation?? I mean, sure, Duke has been mounted by our friend's steralised male dog, but I didn't assume that dog had a preference for mounting males :wink: lol