I can't understand anything

 

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la piccola Quasi in tutto il suo *ahem* splendore

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What?! Sorry but can't help it, he kind of remind me of a Fiat 500. Odd that they are both Italian. What's up with Italians and small weird looking things? Is this another marketing stunt for the 500?

 

Well, I have to say I was one of the two that said the poor dog was real, so I guess I was right, I know there are mutant dogs out there and it is very sad....

 

Poor thing Should have been euthanised instead of living to suffer.

 

We can't know for sure he's suffering, right? Just because he looks the way he does, does not mean he is in pain, dogs learn to adapt.

 

Do you think deformed children should be euthanized?

 

We don't euthanize people.

People can convey that they are uncomfortable or in pain. A dog cannot clearly tell you that it hurts or needs help.

 

Babies can't convey, what is the difference.,,.Why not euthanize all living things that aren't up to human standards of normal..

 

Its not about "human standards of normal".

Its about quality of life.

Maybe the dog is able to live a comfortable life. I'd be willing to bet that it has internal issues, structural pain, and needs a lot of care.

Good for those people that are willing to care for it.

My point is that I would have euthanized it.

There are millions of dogs out there that can live fully healthy lives, they are euthanized.

This dog would have died in the wild. Its mother probably would have sensed it was deformed and left it to die.

Its the way mother nature intended.

Humans have been screwing with nature for decades. We have never succeeded against her.

 

I am a memeber for the right to die society. As was my Dad. 'if' there is pain and sufffering then yes euthinaisa should be considered for animals.

 

It says this dog is deformed because it was raised in a hen cage (high and short).

Cannot move its head because its vertebrate never developed.

 

So, who do you think did that to him, ghosts? HUMANS

 

Yes, but when you realize just how much crap people do that destroys dogs lives everyday and they have NO control over it, you will start to understand how I feel...

 

I am not sure what you mean by this.

I am fully aware of what dogs are subject to everyday.

I do understand how you feel.

I just don't feel the same way.

 

believe it comes down to whether or not the Dog is in pain or sufferring in any way.

If he lives a fairly normal life.... and can enjoy himself and be loved....

I'm just not comfortable saying he doesn't deserve to live.

Just my opinion.

 

Kudos to people who can put their time and love into this and others like this. Yes if pain free and happy great. But not all rescues or people have these resources as well and no one should be faulted for only doing what they have capabilities for.

The real harm was the people who did this to him and then dumped him instead of properly re homing/rescuing or euthanasia him.

 

just a heads up - looking at the translation more closely (it is not very good), it looks like they initially thought the dog was like this because it was raised in a hen cage but after some research, they found that it was actually a genetic abnormality that they came across in an old book. in other words, this was not human neglect, the dog was born with a rare and deforming abnormality.

ETA: here is more information on it: Answers in Genesis Vindicated on Baboon Dogs - TalkRational

 

You are more patient than I.

I could not make heads or tails of it.

Interesting that it's a genetic deformity.

 

well, yes, we do euthanise people and babies, too...it's called snowing....but that's not the point here.

i think, from what i can sort of translate, the dog has a disorder....i just can't figure out what it is....

i don't think it's photoshopped....

 

Snowing?

Color me confused...

 

That poor baby!

 

I have to comment... kind of off topic but kind of not.

Had a bad Gallstone attack on Thanksgiving Night in 2006. Went to the emergency room because I thought my stomach was going to explode.

They gave me Morphine. I still remember the nurse telling me I was going to feel something "warm" hit me.

WARM? I literally thought I was floating on the ceiling....and it was within about 10 seconds from the time she sent it thru the IV. I went from balled up in the fetal position to floating and pain free in less than a minute.

For anyone who hasn't had morphine... it makes Vicodin seem like childs aspirin. Frankly, it amazed me that man could invent such a thing. And it also scared me.

Sorry, just had to tell my story.

 

and morphine is just one of many drugs that give you that floaty, heavenly, i'm out of pain feeling.

'course, my friends thought it would be a hoot to give me morphine when i broke my back years ago.....they thought a nice hefty dose would make me float. and it did for about 10 minutes.

throwing up for two days with a broken back is NOT fun. i spent that time planning revenge. locking one of them in a morgue drawer was satisfying to say the least.

turns out i am very sensitive to drugs...and a cheap date.

just thought i'd share.

and, back to the dog? if the dog is living a life that is satisfying and free of pain, fine. if not, then euthanasia would be a blessing.

 

Re, thankfully, I didn't get sick off the morphine


I see so many sad examples of Dog ownership... I took a backway into work after lunch. Thru a somewhat depressed area of town... same old story...Dogs on Chains. Breaks me up every time.

I see this every day. Knowing this....knowing how many Dogs live these horribly neglected lives--if someone loves this Dog and he's not living life in pain--who am I to question his existence? Because he LOOKS funny? Seriously?

Note--I'm just sounding off outloud. Not directed at anyone.

 

i bet you had yourself a good ol' high

that said....this is why we threaten our dogs with a trip to where dogs are used for bait...so they will appreciate what we do for them...

and all kidding aside....i don't know how to define 'quality of life', do you?

my malia is a stoic. she came home one day, rolled onto her belly and that's when we saw the torn leg to the tendon. she was half dead from rocky mountain spotted fever before she showed us she was sick.

sometimes love is not enough, kevin, sad to say....

i can see a dog with amputated limbs living a quality life, but this poor dog has such a limitation, such a deformity, he simply has to be in pain. there is no way he is not, considering the innervation of nerves and blood vessels at the spinal level.

i am not walking a mile in that dog's paws nor am i his owner....but i'd be thinking long and hard about 'quality'.....my definition...ya know?

 

I think there's a difference between euthanizing at birth and euthanizing later in life. I might be inclined to euthanize at birth had that puppy been born in my house but if I were to come across him later in his life and he was happy and loved life then no, euthanasia would not be an option.

Chances are that dog will die earlier than most only because I think he will begin to have issues as he gets older but I firmly believe in quality, not quantity.

 

From the Facebook page:

This is a message to all of the new foreign friends of our project who came here through one of the million FB pages posting a picture of our *superspecial* dog, Quasi. To let you know: Quasi was born this way, she has a very rare genetic condition called "short spine syndrome". She is NOT deformed because of being in a small cage (even though that was what we were told when we rescued her). She was abused when she was a stray dog, but at least she was NOT grown up in a cage. She is very healthy and she is also a blood donor. She can walk, run sit (everything in her own way) and she is very smart. I cannot write on ALL of the posts about her around the net, I should spend all of my spare time on the internet telling the same story all the times, and I rather prefer to spend it rescuing stray dogs. Thank you all

 

well, that kind of clears things up.

but i would most likely have euthanised at birth. just sayin'.

 

Well I didn't post this to start a right to die debate but I'm working on keeping that reputation as a troublemaker soooo...... :wink:
While I wholeheartedly agree no animal should be forced to live in misery it's like D&B's mom said, this dog wasn't born with his current owners and is apparently living as normal a life as possible.
I fostered Fiona the little deformed Bulldog, who was not as bad as this dog, but clearly had a spinal issue and deformed back legs. She was as happy a little dog as you'd ever see and now has a wonderful home.
Sometimes these issues aren't also apparent at birth. I had a litter of pups born here a couple of years ago, (mom was rescued from the pound of course) and at just under 4 weeks I realized something was wrong with one of the pup's legs. Her bones weren't fully formed where they should meet at the knee so her leg was floppy. At that point I already loved this little girl and knew she would manage fine with this disability but also knew I was running the risk that I wouldn't find an adopter that felt the same way. But, I did find a great home for her and I now dog sit her all the time and she has no problem getting around and is a happy well adjusted little beast. This is what she looked like at about the time I too her for her first x-ray. Could you put this sweet little baby to sleep? :nono:

Coming from the house of broken dogs, I can say with certainty, I prefer to have dogs with special needs over "perfect" dogs and am always willing to open my home to one. Or 5, or 8 or.....:twitch:

 

Am I the only one who doesn't think this dog is so horribly deformed? Yes, he looks very strange.I guess based on everyone's reaction I was expecting far worse. It's hard to say without seeing him move, but heck, he almost looks like a compact version of some of the show GSD's we board. I'm sure he will have horrible bone/joint issues at some point, but until then I am sure he is capable of loving life.

 

you're right, donna....

i will quantify the statement as 'not at birth' but as soon as i realised the problems this dog will face.

i have no doubt, robin, that this dog is loved and there are people in this world who will go to the ends of the earth to give the dog as normal a life as possible...

but i am a member of the right to die....for humans...and i have dominion over my animals...and i have the responsibility and honour to give them the best life i am able to give and also to give them an easy death when it's time.

it's horrific when we have to put animals down at a very young age....

but i think death is not always the enemy....the physiology of this dog.....tells me she is in discomfort and having a spinal problem myself....and not even to the extent this dog has, i wish sometimes someone would put me down, the pain can be horrific.

donna, yes, i could put that sweet baby to sleep and give her back to G'd.....where she will be pain free..

your key word to me.....is 'normal life as possible'.....to me, if the dog had been born without front or back legs, i could work with that and have seen a number of times....giving a dog as normal a life as possible.

but never would i want a dog to live in constant pain. never.

not all deformities hurt, donna....so it then becomes a moot point. of course, it's not the deformity, it's the pain that would decide something for me.

i don't have a dog that is perfect....and have had special needs dogs...but not ones who live a life of pain daily. i can't do that. and won't.

werecatrising....no, i don't think the dog is ugly, but i do think the condition is very painful...it would have to be, unless the nerves were dead, or there was no blood supply. and i think this dog probably has issues now....painful ones.

you're right, too, robin. i should qualify this statement as not euthanising at birth, but after a careful assessment once the problem came to light and i had researched the quality of life.

 

Do you not think that the dog had x-rays done and that a vet would of told them if it was best to put the dog down that the people just ignored him? I'm sure that wasn't the case...If, with all the facts in front of me, I thought my dogs were in pain I would chose to euthanize, but I don't see that here..We need more facts..I have a DNR also and chose my own destiny..But that is not the case when we talk about animals who can live fulfilled lives with less.

 

This may be a really stupid question.... What is the veternary 'buisness' like there? We-being the usa- have so many advances it's astounding and also very expensive. We have clinics and low cost and funding options at times. I really have no clue what a vet would be like in another country. Probably the same education/advances and all? Do they have studies and clinical trials? I do not think there is FDA regulations there as so much stuff seems avialbe overseas that isn't here.

 

i can't answer that one, robin...i only know what i would do....and as soon as i noticed a problem or the vet did, i would do everything possible to learn what the deformity or disease was...and what the pain issues were and would be down the line. it's not as if i would just say, screw this dog.....put him down.

you know me and research....pain is my button though. i cannot let a dog be in pain any more than i can let a human be in pain.

i believe in euthanasia under those circumstances and i believe in doctor assisted suicide, too.....whether it's for human anguish mentally or physical anguish.....

dogs are my heart. they are my best friends...i will never ever let them suffer...and maybe my definition of suffering is different than yours..

brandypup...good question...i can't speak for other countries or other human ways of handling dogs. it's obvious this dog is loved or she'd be dead, wouldn't you think?

 

WEll, it's not for me to specifly judge this dog and their owners. However I can give opioions on the sitatuion. It appeared the dog was for adoption as well or I miss read one of the tabs. And not trying to judge the people or org that has the dog but like some big time orgs I know of could use something like this for their own adjenda and propraganda (SP). Only the dog and his people can say if the dog is happy, I am not in a position to do anything about it if it's not.

I think it's amazing that a dog can live like that and wonder what internal xrays would show. He has a very cute face but he takes a bit of getting used to just becuase I have never seen anything like that before. (I stare at over slanted GSD in the same amazment)