no recipes.

i am still experimenting.

today my dogs has chicken drumstick for bone.

tonight they had boneless beef, sesame seed, flax seed, pumpkin seed, sunflower seed, crushed but not ground to dust, raw pureed carrot and a piece of pureed raw apple, and emu oil

last night they had bok choy/turnip/squash - cooked and raw pork sparerib
yeterday morning they had the rest of the pork sparerib.

 

Re, when did you switch to barf?!

 

i'm experimenting.

bubba has had hair loss for over a year now. i want to fix it. i'm not sure what's causing it. it's not as if he's not getting
enough omega 3 in his diet and i'm not sure salmon oil is what did it, tho' we did try it twice and he seemed to lose hair each time.

i found that what i'm reading about certain vitamins and minerals over time, might just be of benefit.

since there is no hard science either way, i figure it can't hurt.

and, bubba's showing signs of growing hair on his face again. i can't argue with that.

i started with seeds and now am moving on to different items with certain vitamins and minerals.

they only get one meal with veggies and or fruit and or seeds....that's dinner and it amounts to a tablespoon or two....

not a great big slop dish.

i'll post what i feed them here.

glad to see this section.....

 

I haven't, I just want to see what and how people feed on barf diets.

 

I going to add the seed mixture to Duncan's diet....I've started with flax.

Have you seen any difference in Bubba's fur yet?

 

What vitamins? I'm interested.

 

All of them.

I'm glad to see this topic. If you want I can copy those recipes from Raw section here, just to have them all on one place? And we will be adding some more very soon of course.

 

@ Sara -

i started with flax and then started crushing sunflower, pumpkin (raw no salt), sesame seeds.

i was guided to break them open not grind them into dust

i believe bubba and malia have been getting this mixture for a week or a little more than a week.

time has no meaning to me anymore

yes. i see a difference in his face. the hair that was missing on his chin is now coming back.

the hair between his eyes is coming back a little bit, but he has goobers in his eyes so that is part of why that part happened. change of season, i believe is what bothers him.

@cavepaws -- all vegetables and fruits have many vitamins and minerals in them.

dogs have some, not much, digestive enzymes in their stomachs to take care of the innards of rabbits or mice, as they are too small to shake out the stomach and only eat the lining.

i do not have any science to back me up.
but, it makes sense to me that if we feed them various parts of animals to give them balance over time,
then i can also give a variety of vegetables and fruits and also achieve a balance over time.

whilst livers and other organs also have vitamins, so do vegetables and fruits in different forms, such as carrots having beta carotene which is a pre cursor to vitamin a.....

robin, whiteleo, feeds her dogs sea kelp on the idea that something will help her dogs. i agree, even though sea kelp gave my dogs diarrhea.

then it was suggested on the balkan forum to boil the sea kelp and give them the fluid or the boiled sea kelp. my translations are not the best.

so i will try that.

but for now, it's all an experiment.

gotta say, they love it.

here's something else. i do not see it in their poop coming out the way it went in, except for one sunflower seed that didn't get crushed.

too much information, but that happens to me, too LOL

 

i'm also realising that, when i introduce vegetables and fruits into their diet, it's got to be slow and easy like introducing certain proteins.

if i just give them a bowl of veggies, they will likely get diarrhea.

so i'm starting with very small amounts.

as my balkan friends say, coffee spoon size

of course, their coffee spoons might be smaller or bigger than ours, but it gives me a starting point.

last night, they got boneless beef to finish off what i had, plus a little apple and carrot, raw and chopped, not pureed.

 

That's awesome your seeing some hair regrowth!

I've been noticing that Lucky has been shedding a lot lately. Kinda weird since the weather is getting colder.....?? I am thinking I may start her on the seed mixture as well. The other day I gave her a small spoonful of Duncan's veggie puree on the top of her boneless beef. She loved it......

 

I've been noticing that Lucky has been shedding a lot lately. Kinda weird since the weather is getting colder.....??

Ania is shedding too. But don't they blow their summer coat in order to get ready for their winter coat? Didn't I read this here at one time...?

 

Richelle, you may be right....I'm not sure. Something to look into.

The only thing is I don't think that Ania and Lucky have the same coats. Doesn't Ania have a soft furry undercoat? Lucky doesn't, she just has one layer (so to speak) of fur that isn't thick.

However, you may be right.....and the shedding could be totally normal. :tongue:

 

ok, i will do that hard work and put some recipes here, to justify a name of this thread :smile:

chicken liver, chicken stomach, chicken wings, sheep yogurt, quail egg
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beef larynx and diaphragm, boiled carrots and cauliflower, parsley (it would be much much better that it is fresh :biggrin: ) flax seed

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some nice ingredients

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mackerel, sprat, rice, carrots, parsley, garlic, cranberries

 

wiliana, do you have a garden?

 

Magicre, you've got me thinking a lot. Small amounts don't seem like they would hurt. And what you are saying, these being such miniscule amounts in the feedings literally teaspoons, well I could see adding this to my dogs diet just as a "what if it does some sort of good"

I used to give my dogs seameal everyday. I noticed a lot of improvements but this was when they were on kibble...Are there certain types of kelp to look for? I wouldn't mind adding kelp back in to the diet.

 

A picture of today's breakfast!

I don't feed BARF. I feed an undefined homemade raw diet. I essentially follow prey model principles, but I do add small amounts of extras now and then. This is Henry's breakfast today. Chicken thigh, whitefish, pumpkin, spleen, pancreas, yogurt, veggie slop (blended: veggies + sardines + liver + ACV + bananas + apples). I also added FortiFlora probiotic and Prozyme digestive enzymes. Salmon oil was added, too.

 

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A picture of today's breakfast!

I don't feed BARF. I feed an undefined homemade raw diet. I essentially follow prey model principles, but I do add small amounts of extras now and then. This is Henry's breakfast today. Chicken thigh, whitefish, pumpkin, spleen, pancreas, yogurt, veggie slop (blended: veggies + sardines + liver + ACV + bananas + apples). I also added FortiFlora probiotic and Prozyme digestive enzymes. Salmon oil was added, too.

When you blend the 'vegie slop', do you cook the veggies first, or do you just chunk it all in a blender raw?

I have been reading this thread because I'm thinking of trying some new things for Chelsy who doesn't really eat a totally raw diet. She has a lot of previous health problems and can be really picky about the raw meat I offer but LOVES any cooked meat. It might be easier at age 15 to start adding some things to cooked meat for her then to try and keep forcing her to eat things she refuses to or hates. I know she can't just live on cooked plain meat which is what she picks out now.

 

Nope, I don't cook the veggies. I just blend them up.

 

both of my dogs have different coats, but they are both double coated.

neither are blowing their coats as they did last year. and last year, when bubba blew his coat, he blew it right off his face, belly, and hind end.

neither his nor malia's ever came back quite as thick.

hers is coming back now because we had to get her shaved in her anal area this time but bubba, whom we usually have to get shaved, we haven't in over a year.

 

i'd have to look at the bag but if it's a nice sea kelp with nothing else, then i'd give them just a little bit to start.

they aren't used to it. so just like when we were introducing the proteins, that is the way i'm going to introduce certain vitamins and minerals.

tonight they will have cooked wild salmon with apple for vitamin c and carrot for vitamin a. i won't cook the apple and carrot. but i will chop it. they will also get the seed blend which is chopped but not ground to dust.

 

some of those bowls make me want to sit down to dinner and eat them, and some of those bowls make me want to lose my dinner. Not a comment on the food, just funny to me that I either get hungry or gag, depending on the bowl. That sheep yogurt bowl is quite interesting.

 

For Duncan I will puree his raw veggies, and when I cook the veggies I will leave them in small cut up cubes. I give him slices of banana which he loves.

 

do you puree them so they will go through his system more efficiently?

the reason i ask is because i've been watching their stools to see what comes out undigested....so far, the seeds that didn't grind properly because my grinder broke, but nothing else came out and i have been chopping the raw veggies or fruits, not pureeing.

not criticising, just asking....

 

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my grinder broke so the seeds are whole and useless, really. the skins need to be broken at least....

i got a new grinder today, so i will be able to do it properly.

but what they had today:

wild coho alaskan salmon poached
raw lamb/beef from beef rib/
bok choy and asparagus - cooked - leftovers from my dinners
butternut squash and carrot - cooked - leftovers from my dinners

 

I found this recipe online a while back ago, and I did make it a couple times in the past. Thought some of you might be interested. Here is the link if you want to check it out: Healthy Homemade Dog Food Recipes | How To Make Your Own Dog Food | Raw Dog Food


Raw Meat Mix - The Unstew

1 lb. raw ground meat

2 cups ground or pureed vegetables

2-4 oz. raw organ meat (liver, gizzards, etc.)

half cup apple cider vinegar

2-3 cloves garlic

1 T ground kelp

half cup plain yogurt

3 eggs with shells

palmful of parsley

Mix all ingredients (chop, puree, or leave in large chunks, depending on your dog's preference) and store in the refrigerator or freezer. This mixture should account for 20-40% of your dog's daily diet.

The remaining 60-80% of your raw-food-eating dog's daily requirement should consist of raw meat and bones (backs, necks, carcasses).

 

i would like this very much, except i would sub out something else for the ground meat, and i would not use the yoghurt.

otherwise, i bet it's nummy.

 

when i used to cook for my dogs, i used to puree everything, chowder...

now, i can't see why i would want to do that...that's why i'm asking.

chopping or cutting, i can see doing...i don't get the puree'ing...

that's why i asked.

 

Well, doesn't pureeing break the cell wall so that dogs can get something out of the veggies??

 

i think chopping also breaks the cell wall.

i'm not sure, brownie. i'm just experimenting.

what bothers me and this is just an opinion..and you know what they say about opinions..

is when something is pureed, isn't the nature of the item changed?

like an apple that becomes juice? even though the apple still has the skin on it, but is then pureed, the nature of it changes.

plus, and again, i'm not sure at all....when given the item whole or chopped, is there enough enzyme in the digestive system to get what it needs over time...?

and that's what i'm counting on...

in the same vein as dogs getting what they need over time with raw protein and bones and organs, i have this feeling they will get what they need from veggies and fruits, etc....over time.

 

Duncan has to eat a lot more veggies than the average healthy dog does or needs to. And, yes....I have seen him poop veggies out the way they went in. I cut up a mini carrot into three chunks one time....and in his poop there was a big chunk of raw carrot.

So I stand by what I do. If I'm feeding them raw they go into a puree. If I'm feeding them cooked, I cook them well and I don't mind leaving them in chunk, cut up form. When I make his brown rice mixture I cook and cut up the veggies to add to it.

When the veggies are cooked and in cubes I have never seen any in his poop.

Since you guys are able to feed less of the veggies I wonder if it's easier for them to digest in raw form? Don't know....?

 

You got the point here. We discussed that matter on Balkan Kinology forum(and still are) especially about carrot.
Conclusion is that each dog is different case. For instance I am rendering carrot for Azra, and, according to her poop, she is diggesting it. Some members are saying that they will see the pieces, no matter how small the chunks are, unless they boil it!
On the other side, Azra is used to have a "desert" after each meal. Most of the time it is a slice of raw apple, and again she is diggesting it! Maybe it's because, like Celt says, she is chewing it thoroughly!
My advice is to watch your dogs and you will see what suits them best, there is no ultimate rule! After all, we are doing this for the benefits of our dogs!

 

Would how well a dog "chewed" the veggie matter on whether it "reappers" or not?

 

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I don't think a dog can chew up a veggie in any meaningful way, or digest it in its original form.

 

Say I have been working and not able to look at the forums lately. This is something new. I'm sort of glad to see it. When I had my basset girls I use to feed Barf and I would puree the veggies, if I didn't they would come out as they came in. I have to say sometimes it was nice as you could make the hamburger go farther by putting veggies in it. I have always gotten old meat from people cleaning out there freezers. So I would mix it with the hamburger. It was my understanding they ether had to be pureed or steamed for them to be able to digest.

 

Shortly cooked turkey meat, carrot, zucchini, parsley, celery (all cooked in that soup), parsley leaf, spinach, seeds mixture, yogurt and egg shell