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#1 ·
RawFedDogs said:
You are welcome to post your recipies in another thread if you wish. Expect to be questioned as to why you feel it's necessary to feed vegetables, grains, dairy products, and fruits. :smile:
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Thank you. ;)

Any question is welcome, and I'm sure that we will have the answer for all of them. ;)

Here are some of our meals:

This one is mine:

-Beef larynx + rice, some veggies and yogurt.

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Grivana's meals:

-Chicken organs and chicken breast, + rice, tomato, pepper, and some sour cream

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-beef t-bone steak + carrot, yogurt and some seeds

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Wiliana's meal:

-Beef tail, beef tongue, beef liver + some veggies, oat flakes and goat white cheese

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Diana M.'s meal:

-Beef tongue, heart, larynx, tripe, horse meat + some veggies and fruits, sour cream and a mix of pumpkin seeds, sesame seeds, flex seeds and sunflower seeds.

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Ghandi and Azra please add some of yours, I didn't have them on my computer
 
#2 ·
Nice looking plates of food. Why do you find it necessary to feed veggies, fruits, grains, and dairy to a dog? You know dogs are carniovres, right? Carnivores eat meat, bones, organs of a variety of animals. No need for the other stuff at all. Were did you get these recipies?
 
#16 ·
These are our recipes, and we are very proud of them :)
Why We drop fruit and vegetables in meals?
We do not feed our dogs only RAW because I think that it is impossible to imitate nature. Dogs need the stomach contents of prey, bacteria, in nature they eat some fruit,.... Because we interfere fruits and vegetables with meat and bones.
We do not have opportunities to give them live chicken :), so we strive to complement their diet.
 
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What are all the seeds supposed to be for?
 
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#25 ·
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Searching for the best dog food for our dogs is like searching for the holy grail. A significant amount of myth, confusion, hype, mis-information and unfounded research exists in developing the ideal dog food. Every manufacturer claims to have developed the ideal balance and complete food. The reality is that every one of these fabricated menu choices CAN’T be the ideal formula, because it is quite evident that the formula doesn’t exist. Why? Because no one person knows the perfect way to feed a dog. Is it proper to feed a dog a grain based diet? Is it appropriate to heat process the ingredients to render it SAFE from bacterial contamination? Is it sensible to add harmful ingredients in order to make it more palatable? Is it logical that a bag of dry kibble dog food can stay FRESH for 6 months with the bag left open? Is is harmful for your dog to consume a raw, unprocessed food source (like a BARF Diet)?

We can all speculate as to what the best food choice would be for dogs but it all comes down to common sense. Our philosophy is based on common sense, testimonials, and a willingness to weigh the benefits and advantages against the potential risks. It is my contention that the research has been conducted with the intention of trying to find ways to make the digestive capacity of a carnivore function more as an omnivore.
It becomes a challenge to find a suitable meal that will allow for growth and reproduction.

An increasing number of dog owners are demanding a CHANGE to improve the health of their pets.
....:tea::amen:
 
#31 ·
spook said:
Searching for the best dog food for our dogs is like searching for the holy grail. A significant amount of myth, confusion, hype, mis-information and unfounded research exists in developing the ideal dog food. Every manufacturer claims to have developed the ideal balance and complete food. The reality is that every one of these fabricated menu choices CAN’T be the ideal formula, because it is quite evident that the formula doesn’t exist.
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If you are talking about commercial food, I agree with you completely.


Why? Because no one person knows the perfect way to feed a dog.
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Whenever I need an answer to a statement like this, I always look to nature. Nature always provides each species with the nutrients it needs to thrive. If not, the species goes extinct. Nature equips each species with the components in his body to extract the needed nutrients from thier food.

Is it proper to feed a dog a grain based diet?
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Of course not. I don't think either of us have ever see a wolf or dog grazing in a rice patty, or a corn field or wheat field. :smile:

Is it appropriate to heat process the ingredients to render it SAFE from bacterial contamination?
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Looking at nature again, of course wild animals do not have the ability to cook their food. Humans are the only species that does that.

Is is harmful for your dog to consume a raw, unprocessed food source (like a BARF Diet)?
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Again of course not BUT there are a not of unnecessary ingredients in the BARF diet. Dogs have no nutritional need for plant matter in their diet. They don't eat plant matter in the wild other than some berries when in season. They eat those because the sugar in the tastes good, just like cake, and ice cream tasts good to us but has no nutritional value. :smile:

We can all speculate as to what the best food choice would be for dogs but it all comes down to common sense.
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It's not difficult and there is no speculation about what a wild wolf or dog eats in nature. This is well known scientific fact. Again, nature provides each species with what it needs nutritionwise for a long healthy life.

Our philosophy is based on common sense, testimonials, and a willingness to weigh the benefits and advantages against the potential risks.
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None of these things are necessary to determine what a dog needs in his diet. Again, look at the wolf in nature. That will tell you all you need to know. No amount of testimonials can change that.

It is my contention that the research has been conducted with the intention of trying to find ways to make the digestive capacity of a carnivore function more as an omnivore.
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You can not turn a carnivore into an omnivore by feeding it omnivore food. A dog is a carnivore from the tip of his nose to his anus. If you look closely at a dog's body, inside and out, there is no question he is a carnivore.

It becomes a challenge to find a suitable meal that will allow for growth and reproduction.
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No, its not a challenge at all. A dog needs meat, bones, and organs and nothing else. There are hundreds if not thousands of raw feeding breederss who have no problems breeding. Again, look to nature.
 
#26 ·
Unless you are Rob Mueller, you should cite him for his blog article :wink:

But I think we all agree with that passage -- it definitely holds true. We're just at odds with the whole fruits/veggies/supplements already found in meats thing. BARF is still far better than what the average pet owner feeds though!
 
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#41 ·
Diana M. said:
We always start from nature, but ....
Why do people eat meat? Man has to eat whole grains, fresh fruits and vegetables, not meat and NOT cooked food.
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Oh jeez, here we go again. Humans do not have to eat any grains. Humans lived for millions of years, up until the relatively recent advent of agriculture about 10,000 years ago, with almost no grains in the diet. The introduction of grains to the human diet was an economic move, not a health requirement. Read this for more on this...

http://thepaleodiet.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Cerealgrainhumanitydoublesword.pdf

As for fruits and vegetables, humans are omnivores and can benefit from the consumption of these plants. Dogs cannot unless they are processed to death. Whether they are actually necessary in the human diet or not is still a matter of great debate. There are a number of hunter-gatherer societies that thrived for thousands of years on a diet that was primarily meat. Conversely, there are no vegetarian societies in human history. None, nada. Not one. Veganism is a modern fad, there is no historical or anthropological basis for it. I'm NOT criticizing it. I know some people swear by it and it has helped them in one way or another. But there is no history of veganism in humanity until now.

There are some people who today eat completely raw diets, including their meat. The "raw Paleolithic" diet, for example, is known to cure "incurable" diseases. But there is some merit to cooking certain things as well, especially plant matter, as cooking exposes some nutrients not otherwise available from the plant in the raw form.

All that aside, what does the human omnivorous diet have to do with the canine carnivorous diet?
 
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One of the most often discussed questions from customers involves talking about the dog’s stools because this is the outcome (no pun intended) or the final result, should I say, of the feeding process. We manufacture a raw frozen meat diet and the BAROMETER used to determine the success of the conversion to this controversial philosophy is the condition of the stool. The color, consistency, and odor all play a role in the determination of the success. It is perfectly NORMAL for the stool to be a chalky white consistency, obviously more firm than a stool formed on a dry heat processed diet, and odor free (almost!). The stool tells the story because these three factors are the result of a more complete combustion process. The nutritional advantage is gained because the ingredients are more completely absorbed in the digestive system in a shorter period of time. This results in less toxin buildup and a significant reduction in stool volume. You know how important this is when you own a larger breed dog.

The end product (stool) is a chalky white , and has a rather hard consistency – because all that is left is the residue of ash and fiber. All the other ingredients are being utilized and goes to work to gain a nutritional advantage. So the next time your dog takes his/her morning constitution, be sure to check the stool and use it as a barometer and see how it compares to a dog that is being fed an artificial food diet. You will be amazed at the difference and the long term benefit will be rewarding.
Because of all this .. I think it is a good addition to our dogs give meat ... vegetables, fruits ...:amen: :)
 
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#43 ·
Is it chastising if someone makes erroneous statements and others try to correct that information? This happens almost every time someone posts their version of BARF. What's the big deal? Should we sit on our hands and let the false information stand?

I agree that the OP is feeding their dogs better than most people do, but if we see things in that diet that are known to cause issues in some dogs, shouldn't it at least be mentioned here? The OP is going to do whatever she/he thinks is best in the end. But it's possible that we might open the mind of someone who is "so close, yet so far" to help them improve on an already good step towards an optimum diet.
 
#38 · (Edited)
Wow! Looks very delicious. Your hounds eat great. My pups just get a variety of animal meats / bones / organs. I do give them treats of whatever the heck too...But dang, your pack is really eating some gourmet stuff there. Lots of good red meats. :)

Now, if this is working for your dogs then that is wonderful. Personally, for my pups, this diet would not work as well as only meat, bones, and organs. The grains would give my pack horrible gas and complimented with the dairy, well they would poop me out of the house. Lol, but, I have to commend you on the variety you are feeding. It all looks lovely and I would like to see some more recipes/pics. We don't have very many Barf feeders representing the Barf world around here. So, welcome to the raw feeding club of DFC.
 
#39 ·
I haven't heard any chastising. Different points of view are out there but many people have also complimented this diet as far above that of the average dog. It is silly that no one seems to be allowed their opinion without causing someone else to be insulted. I think their diet is far above the average and their dog's must do well. I am glad for that, just like I am glad when someone upgrades from Ol Roy to a better kibble - are they at the pinnacle of canine nutrition? No. But they are dong better and their dogs will thank them for that. Lest not get all prissy about everything someone says, no one has been harsh or rude.
 
#42 ·
Honestly, Filth, I think you should make a thread in the Dog Food Recipes section now. Just take your original post and paste that into a new thread. That way, you have a clean slate with just your recipes. I wouldn't bother replying to confrontation in the new thread. Use this one to continue the debate. You've got a nice thing going here and I think it would be cool to see a few more full posts of your recipes. In their very own thread housed by the Dog Food Recipes section. :wink:
 
#44 ·
This started to be interesting :)
First...for people that are shocked with nice pictures...we are doing that really for fun, and before we met on another forum and started theme about recepies, noone of us haven't been in this "photo mode" before serving. As Diana said... where is the fun :party: ... It is not hard to put things in a bowl...takes mabye one minute more than to throw food to dog.

Further... Mabye Im wrong, but some of comments here about those "recepies" are like when Im thinking about people who are feeding kibble..."Oh, look at those people, thay don't know anything about feeding, I'm genious and I only know the whole truth about nature" :biggrin:
So, now Im thinking coud be better to change name of this theme to "Pray Vs Arranged" :becky:

OK... dogs are canivores, all of us here knows that. All of us will agree that meet is something withouth they can't live healthy. They need everything from the animal, from meet to bones. All of our dogs are getting that.

Difference in our oppinions are that some of you think that dog doesent need anything exept animal parts, and others think that they need something more...I would rather say- they don't need anything exept prey, but it's better to add some ingredients.

Why? I watched my dog...in one part of life he eated only meet cause he didn't want anything else. He eated different parts of beef and didn't want to eat organs... Why?- Ask him :rolleyes: Everything with a bone he loved, and Barf. Barf that Im buying here is without grains or vegetables, but with a big part of uncleaned tripes with herbs that beef eated. He was very healthy but skinny, and coat was good, but now is better when Im preparing him what you have seen on photos.

So, we had that little problem about how to encrease his weight cause he is eating smaller ammounts of food than he needs. I started with experiments and found this kind of meals as the best solution for him. Weight and musculature are ideal, he is very healthy and blood picture ( I don' t know did I say right- when you take blood and send for analyse :redface: ) is perfect, coat is better than ever, poop almost the same as on strict meat diet ( a little bit bigger, but still very small :tongue: ) , energy level is always high, teeth like pearls (offcourse-bones are our best friends :becky: ) ...

I wrote my example instead of long convincig am I right or not.

Uh...so many posts in meantime... I will post this and then I will read rest
 
#45 ·
Our dogs are the only measure of us as to whether and where we are wrong. We look at dogs, we learn along with them from day to day, menus tailor each dog individually, his personal needs,....
For example Wiliana threw the dog grains, in front of the exhibition, to get the weight, my bitch I threw grains of pregnancy that can not be gained too much, Filth's puppy needs more protein while increasing means-getting more meat, etc. .... The menus are only there as guidelines, ideas, every owner knows your dog best, and prepare a meal for just for him.
 
#48 ·
The Eurasian wolf eats meats, muscles, heart, liver, lungs, etc. It does not eat the contents of the stomach but it does eat the liner/wall, it is highly nutritious. The Eurasian wolf do however eat smaller amounts of berries and plant matter. And in some cases a good deal of spawning trout or salmon.

I don't know why this myth about the wolf eating the contents of the stomach keeps hanging on. Being originally from Norway, where there is a big conflict between the wolf and sheep farmers, I have seen countless pictures through the years of killed sheep where the stomach content is left behind.
 
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