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Ensuing Balance the Pray Modle

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Can anyone help me learn more about where the Vitamins and Minerals come from in the different meats and organs? I understand that when transitioning to a prey model diet that you study the poo to determine how much bone and meat to give; however, I just want to feel more confident that it is a balanced meal with all the vitamins and minerals my dog requires. Any help on this would be appreciated.
 
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Balance comes over time. Do get every single nutrient you need with each meal yourself? No, you eat a variety of different foods over time for the needed balanced nutrition. It's the same for dogs. That's where the variety comes in, for balance. I think there is a sticky that lists different nutrient profiles in different proteins and organs. Also here is an informative link for you Dedicated to proper carnivore nutrition - Prey Model Raw Feeding for Dogs & Cats
 
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I found this site very helpful in determining nutritional values of the different kinds of meat. Nutrition Facts and Analysis for Chicken, liver, all classes, raw

I was surprised to see how nutritious meat is, especially organs. I did a nutritional analysis of chicken livers and found it was one of the most complete foods and contains more vitamins and minerals per 100grams, and in larger quantities than any vegetable or fruit I could find.
 
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I found this site very helpful in determining nutritional values of the different kinds of meat. Nutrition Facts and Analysis for Chicken, liver, all classes, raw

I was surprised to see how nutritious meat is, especially organs. I did a nutritional analysis of chicken livers and found it was one of the most complete foods and contains more vitamins and minerals per 100grams, and in larger quantities than any vegetable or fruit I could find.
Thats why organs aren't fed but about every week. Liver, in particular is very high in vitamin A which you don't want to feed in huge doses. It is very nutrient rich overall.
 
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If you are worried about the PMR diet being balanced, then don't forget that a lot of us get full blood panels and urinalysis done every year just to be sure their diets are not lacking in anything. There is a sticky about it at the top of the page I think. My pup has been on raw nearly 5ish years now and her bloodwork panels have been fine. Her yearly check up is at the end of January so I'll post the results of those bloodtests here as well.
Don't worry, we all have these doubts when starting out and I for one took a huge leap of trust and I am very happy with the results. I'm personally not concerned that PMR is lacking in anything, but it is very nice to have something concrete to put in front of your SD loving vet! :D
 
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That is interesting that you get the blood tested. I had not considered that option. Can you give me an idea of how much that costs? The problem I am facing is I don't have access to many exotic proteins or wild game. I am worried I will not have the variety needed.
 
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Last year, to give you a ballpark figure, (and my vet is one of the more expensive in town), full urinalysis $38, CBC (complete blood count) $146.

Which proteins do you have access to? I don't have access to wild game either, just buy stuff from the supermarket, but I get: chicken, cornish hen, turkey, beef, pork, canned salmon/sardines, eggs, venison (I have to get a pre-made raw venison), lamb once in a blue moon (or premade lamb, as fresh is hideously expensive) and I think that's about it. Oh, I actually found goat a couple of weeks ago too. Do you reckon you can get most of those?
 
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You would just have to check around with vets in your area for prices.

Wild game isn't a must, but It's good to add as something different during hunting seasons. Otherwise, as long as you are feeding at least three or four different proteins along with an organ like liver weekly, you should be okay. As of now, I've not had any blood work done. I may at some point, but not yet and I've been feeding raw for almost three years now.