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Acana is a great food, can you please post up the ingredients that you are feeding here! It very well could be different where you are..
 
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I agree. Switching him cold turkey could definitely have caused the upset stomach. If you ever switch food again in the future (unless it is raw) cold turkey is not the way to go. Some dogs can handle it but I have never had a dog who could handle a cold turkey kibble switch.

I agree with everyone else here. Orijen and Acana are way healthier than Eukaneuba or Science Diet. If I were in your position I would be finding a new vet. I don't think anyone should have to put up with a vet who makes them uncomfortable or doesn't listen to the owner of the pet they are being paid to see.
 
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This is just a thought, but I do have to ask for my own peace of mind. Going by your post, you are from Israel right? Do they irradiate food that is imported into your country?
 

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I will post the ingredients a little later, I'm a bit busy at the moment. The funny thing is she is considered to be one of the best vets here in Israel. She treated my last Bullmastiff who sadly died of lymphoma but regardless she did a wonderful job. Maybe she's just completely ignorant when it comes to nutrition or maybe she knows something we don't.
 

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I will post the ingredients a little later, I'm a bit busy at the moment. The funny thing is she is considered to be one of the best vets here in Israel. She treated my last Bullmastiff who sadly died of lymphoma but regardless she did a wonderful job. Maybe she's just completely ignorant when it comes to nutrition or maybe she knows something we don't.
I really don't think it's the latter!

A vet can be great at diagnosis, treatment, etc and yet so many are not great at nutrition, even though most will act like they are.
 

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Acana Puppy Large Breed Formula

Chicken meal, steel-cut oats, deboned chicken, whole potato, peas, whole egg, deboned flounder, chicken fat, sun-cured alfalfa, chicken liver, herring oil, pea fiber, whole apples, whole pears, sweet potato, pumpkin, butternut squash, parsnips, carrots, spinach, cranberries, blueberries, kelp, chicory root, juniper berries, angelica root, marigold flowers, sweet fennel, peppermint leaf, lavender, vitamin A supplement, vitamin D3 supplement, vitamin E supplement, niacin, riboflavin, folic acid, biotin, vitamin B12 supplement, zinc proteinate, iron proteinate, manganese proteinate, copper proteinate, selenium yeast, dried Enterococcus faecium fermentation product.
 

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Do you know which Eukanuba you were feeding so we can compare the ingredients
 
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Eukanuba large breed puppy:
Chicken, Corn Meal, Chicken By-Product Meal (Natural source of Chondroitin Sulfate and Glucosamine), Ground Whole Grain Sorghum, Brewers Rice, Dried Beet Pulp, Chicken Flavor, Dried Egg Product, Fish Oil (preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Brewers Dried Yeast, Fish Meal,

So superior... :hand:

You should switch food very slowly, and maybe add probiotics too.
 

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Here's the ingredients for the Large Breed Puppy Formula, but I have to go run the dogs before work!

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Chicken, Corn Meal, Chicken By-Product Meal (Natural source of Chondroitin Sulfate and Glucosamine), Ground Whole Grain Sorghum, Brewers Rice, Dried Beet Pulp, Chicken Flavor, Dried Egg Product, Fish Oil (preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Brewers Dried Yeast, Fish Meal, Potassium Chloride, Chicken Fat (preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Salt, Calcium Carbonate, Choline Chloride, Fructooligosaccharides, Minerals (Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Oxide, Manganese Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, Manganous Oxide, Potassium Iodide, Cobalt Carbonate), DL-Methionine, Vitamins (Ascorbic Acid, Vitamin A Acetate, Calcium Pantothenate, Biotin, Thiamine Mononitrate (source of vitamin B1), Vitamin B12 Supplement, Niacin, Riboflavin Supplement (source of vitamin B2), Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (source of vitamin B6), Inositol, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Folic Acid), Vitamin E Supplement, Marigold, Beta-Carotene, Rosemary Extra





































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The funny thing is she is considered to be one of the best vets here in Israel. She treated my last Bullmastiff who sadly died of lymphoma but regardless she did a wonderful job. Maybe she's just completely ignorant when it comes to nutrition or maybe she knows something we don't.
There seems to be more vets like this than not. They're great vets, but not nutritionists, and don't seem to look past the "education seminars (sponsored by the company selling the food :rolleyes:)" they received. What I don't understand is that I, and average person, wanted to know which foods were good to feed my dogs and which weren't, when I started researching, and asking people and professionals, the answers became clear (sort of lol). What is stopping these vets from doing a little research to widen their knowledge so they can actually give nutrition advice? Veterinarians are smart people, or they wouldn't make it through school! Why they don't research like the rest of us I don't understand?

It was hard to find a vet that didn't push a particular food and that actually agreed with my choice of food. He actually believes in RAW feeding as well, which is great because I will be doing that at some point. They ARE out there, but far and few in between.
 

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I just switched my dogs to Acana and they had loose stools as well, then the woman at the pet food store said to try the Acana Grasslands variety, it has lamb not chicken. Within two days my dogs were normal! Maybe there is a chance your dogs have a chicken sensitivity. Mine had been fed Purina with chicken before, but there really wasn't that much chicken in it. The Acana has a higher percentage of real chicken, I found the Orijen too rich for my dogs as well. They really like Acana.
 

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The guy in the pet store who sold me the Acana also said that the dog might be sensitive to chicken but I don't think they have the grasslands variety here. I'll see how it goes for a few days.
 

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When you first make a transition from a corn/grain heavy food to a higher protein grain free food, it can take quite a while for a dog's digestive system to adjust. Also, maybe cutting back by even 1/4 cup of food in the day may help.

If you still have some of the Eukanuba, keep mixing some in with the Acana and lessen the amount every few days.

Also, try adding a tablespoon of plain canned pumpkin to the meal. That helps to sooth the digestive system and firm up the stool while you're transitioning. I would stick with the Acana for several weeks to see how it goes.

Do keep in mind though, even though Acana is thought by many to be a high quality food, it doesn't work for every dog. There are many other good foods.
 

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I have a 3.5 month old Bullmastiff, I started him off on Eukanuba believing it was a high quality food but then I started to research dog foods online and the common consensus was that Eukanuba is junk and Orijen/Acana is high quality food. I switched my puppy over to Orijen but it gave him loose stools and sometimes full blown diarrhea. I have now switched him to Acana and will see how that goes. Today I went to the vet for vaccinations and told her the whole food story and she said that in her opinion Orijen and Acana were low quality foods and Eukanuba and Science Diet were both superior. She said that she isn't a dog nutritionist but has attended many seminars and is in no way affiliated to any dog food company. So I said that I had researched this online and it was widely believed that Orijen and Acana are far superior foods. Her response was that most of the reviews online are made by "paid off" people and most people do not understand how to read dog food ingredients. This sounds highly suspect to me, what do you guys think?
I think it *might* be possible that some vets could recommend taking your dog off of those foods if they are causing digestive problems (or at least slowly introducing them over a number of weeks). But in the general case, calling it "low quality" food (especially when compared to any other kibble on the market) is just flat-out ignorance. (And I'm being charitable by calling it ignorance since she claims she's not in the pocket of some other crap-food producer.)
 

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I have read that canned pumpkin can help, we don't get canned pumpkin here but I bought some fresh pumpkin, boiled it and mashed it and have been adding 2 tablespoons to his food every day. So far it hasn't helped, maybe 2 tablespoons is too much?
 
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