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My dogs are getting alot of deer meat right now. Is it still necessary to feed them fish once a week also????
So if they are getting a lot of deer meat, then I should not have to worry about fish???? Can they get too much Omega 3????There is just as much O3's in Deer meat as in fish, maybe more. Any animal that eats a natural diet will have a lot of O3's in his body. It's the domestic animals like cows, pigs, etc that are fed "artificial" food that lack O3's.
No I don't think you can OD on O3's. :smile: In your case I don't think you have to worry too much about fish for the purpose of O3's but they are still good for variety. If they are a problem for you, don't worry about them.So if they are getting a lot of deer meat, then I should not have to worry about fish???? Can they get too much Omega 3????
The problem is how well carnivorous dogs absorb nutrients from plants ... Not very well. Herbivores and omnivores ... much better.danemama08: Technically you could supplement her with flaxseed oil, considering all the omega 3 fatty acids found in raw meats is plant derived in the first place.
NO!!! REALLY??? I had NO idea that was so :tongue:The problem is how well carnivorous dogs absorb nutrients from plants ... Not very well. Herbivores and omnivores ... much better.
Sorry, I'm gonna have to go off topic a little and disagree with this statement. Saying that calcium is calcium and protein is protein no matter where it comes from so it doesn't matter if carnivores or omnivores eat it is erroneous. As we have all come to learn, glutens are plant-based proteins, which are still proteins, but completely inappropriate for a carnivore to ingest, much like how beef would be terribly inappropriate for a chicken to eat. Same goes for calcium: it is much better and more appropriate for a dog to get its calcium from bones and egg shells rather than lapping up a bowl of milk.There are no "omnivore" nutrients or "carnivore" nutrients, calcium is calcium, phosphorus is phosphorus, magnesium is magnesium, omega 3 fatty acids are omega 3 fatty acids, so on and so forth. The elements are the building blocks of these nutrients (fatty acids), and therefore have no "variety" in terms of who uses them.
I have no idea if that is true or not. From what I know and have heard, supplementation does work, but there are better forms than others. I know that when I give my dogs too many fish oil caps...they start to smell like them. In that fact alone I know that their bodies are at least absorbing the O3's. Are they using them? I have no clue!!! I would think so since they are expelling the fishy scent from the oil glands in their skin...which is why O3's are given right? Skin and coat?Ok, I'm gonna change it just a little to see what you think. It has never been proven that a human absorbs any vitamins from a vitamin pill. It has never been proven that a human benefits from taking vitamin pills. If this is true of humans, I think we can conclude this would be the same for all mammals.
Sooo ... if its not proven that a human can absorb vitamins in supplement form, couldn't we also conclude the same be true with O3's? So the question is, does a dog actually absorb O3's from supplements whether plant or animal or chemical originated?
I agree with you 1000% about the protein. There are plant proteins and animal proteins and they are VERY different. That is why if you reread that paragraph, I in no way put anything in there about proteins. The elements that make up the amino acids, that make up the proteins are all the same...no matter the source.Sorry, I'm gonna have to go off topic a little and disagree with this statement. Saying that calcium is calcium and protein is protein no matter where it comes from so it doesn't matter if carnivores or omnivores eat it is erroneous. As we have all come to learn, glutens are plant-based proteins, which are still proteins, but completely inappropriate for a carnivore to ingest, much like how beef would be terribly inappropriate for a chicken to eat. Same goes for calcium: it is much better and more appropriate for a dog to get its calcium from bones and egg shells rather than lapping up a bowl of milk.
Just thought I should add that.
I'm wondering if it would be somewhat similar to how the body processes "too many" vitamens? In humans, if your intake of vitamens per day, is over the recommended dose, then your body just flushes the rest out in your urine "unused" Maybe it would be the same with excess O3's? I dunno, just a thoughtNice debate folks. I wasn't really thinking I needed to supplement for 03's. I was worried that they might be getting too much if I fed fish along with all the venison I was feeding.
Interesting!There is just as much O3's in Deer meat as in fish, maybe more. Any animal that eats a natural diet will have a lot of O3's in his body. It's the domestic animals like cows, pigs, etc that are fed "artificial" food that lack O3's.
I'm wondering if it would be somewhat similar to how the body processes "too many" vitamens? In humans, if your intake of vitamens per day, is over the recommended dose, then your body just flushes the rest out in your urine "unused" Maybe it would be the same with excess O3's? I dunno, just a thought![]()
Good point.I actually just saw on the news yesterday- that his theory has been busted.. sorta. Some vitamins, when taken in excess can cause cancer. This was a study in people.
I would think a dog would be able to deal with excess, as in nature- they would eat ALL natural animals and get lots an lots of Omegas! :biggrin:
Wow, very interesting. Man, I need to keep updated hehe. Good to know though!I actually just saw on the news yesterday- that his theory has been busted.. sorta. Some vitamins, when taken in excess can cause cancer. This was a study in people.
I would think a dog would be able to deal with excess, as in nature- they would eat ALL natural animals and get lots an lots of Omegas! :biggrin:
Where does that information come from??? Dogs are carnivores and always have been. If you would like information as to why they are carnivores, I can list them if you wish.Omega 3 is Important
A long time ago when dogs were wild animals they used to eat a lot like us humans. They are omnivores like us.