So we gave the raw feeding a try. Didn't matter how much we fed/how many times a day we fed our dogs both lost so much weight. I went by what I was told here on the forum but both dogs I could see their ribs and I could fit my entire hand around Duckie's hips. China's hip bones were protruding! We were feeding 3lbs EACH twice a day by the end of it and they just were NOT gaining weight. Sure it was cheaper and the poo dried up really fast, but it's not worth watching my dogs waste away. I gave it a try and now we're back on kibble. My dogs are at a healthy weight now and much happier.