A decent place is anyplace that will order for you and sell to you in bulk. There are some general pointers that will help you establish a relationship with a butcher. First and very critical ... visit in person. Don't call on the phone. On the phone you are an interruption. In person you are a customer with money ready to spend. It's much easier to say "no" on the phone also. Don't ask for bones or even dog food. To a butcher, that means femur or knuckle bones and thats not what you want. Tell him you want to order chicken backs, quarters, turkey necks, beef heart, and whatever other parts you want to feed. Always be friendly and don't sound bossy. Don't express frustration about not being able to find what you want. Talk like other places have done this for you in the past and now you want to use him to order your stuff. Don't haggle about price. After you have become a good customer and he realizes how easy you are to serve will be a good time for barganing. Get his name and use it when talking to him. Over time chat with him some and get to know about his life away from the shop. The guy I buy most of my self from, I have met his wife and kids. His son works there also and it is convenient that he knows me. I have been told by some of the wimmens that it helps to show cleavage. :smile: Please don't fuss at me, I've really been told that by two different women. They say the price is cheaper when the cleavage shows. :smile: Always be nice and friendly.