Animal by-products are basically any part of the animal that humans don't eat except for those listed in another post. They will include chicken heads and feet and all the insides that people don't eat. It is mostly stuff that is pretty low in nutrition.What do they mean when they say "Animal By Products"? It doesn't sound good at all.
My guess is that the SD rep knows whats in the product they sell but won't admit it to the customer (you). It's their job to convince you that the ingredients are good and nutritious. If they go around telling everyone the whole story about the ingredients, they would be out of business pretty quickly.I'd like to try harder to convince the new SD rep that the food she's pedaling really isn't as great as the company's brainwashed her to think, but it's her job to sell it and that's probably a lot harder to do when you know you're selling crap to unsuspecting customers.
I don't know how specific companies need to be when it comes to by-product meals, the listing could be two pages long. They sum it all up in one package, chicken by-product meal, or poultry by-product meal, etc.I just wish they'd be more specific. That and I believe that while organ meats and almost all parts of the chicken are important for proper dog nutrition, I also think that muscle meat should be a main component of their diets, not organs.
It seems expensive but it is not too bad. They eat less. 800 cals per cup!That being said: holy sweet dear Lord is that food ever expensive! $80 - $89 for a 35 lbs bag?! And $120 for a 48 lbs bag?! I mean, it's got a high linoleic acid content, but my goodness. I guess feeding one medium sized dog that food wouldn't be too painful, but still the initial shock of it is a little intense.
Less mess, less shopping, less work, and don't need an extra freezer along with the bigger electric bill. A cup of RAW is less calories than a cup of Classic Granular. That said, IMO, there is probably no better diet out there for dogs than the Raw diets, and Abady was the first to introduce them in the 1970s. Abady has a great line up of Raw Products. If I were to feed Raw, I would be using their stuff because I trust the company (six years on the Classic Granular for my dog!).Kudos to you for being willing to spend so much on your dog food though. If I loved 'em that much I'd feed 'em raw... but I do already, and cheaper. Good thing eh?
Listen folks. Meat contains somewhere around 70% water. I don't care what kind of meat it is. T-bone steaks, filet mignon, salmon, lobster, pork roast, lamb, worms, insects, snakes, or ANY MEAT. Trying to say that meat in dog food is deceptive because it has 70% water is just plain BS, period. There is no deception. Everyone knows what meat is.Muscle meat or fresh meat muscle as a starter carries along with it a lot of deception. On a solids basis, 75% of that is moisture content (nothing but water). So, on a dry matter basis it amounts to very little actual chicken protein.
With kibble feeds, after baking or extrustion, that meat souce is dehydrated.The only way meat can contain very small to 0% water is to be dehydreated meat. This dehydrated meat is called just that ... dehydrated meat. IT is NOT called meat meal or <name of animal> meal. Its called dehydrated meat.
Exactly. So why would they dehydrate chicken and call it chicken meal since its going to be automatically dehydrated during extrusion? They answer is, they don't. Chicken meal is not dehydrated chicken.With kibble feeds, after baking or extrustion, that meat souce is dehydrated.
Yes, I agree. :smile: :smile: :smile:These diets are the ones at fault, being promoted as 'chicken based' protien when in reality they are all gluten based protien feeds (the protien from grain or vegtables). There lies the deception.
Interesting.A chicken is not primarily comprised of "by-products" (aka: organs) otherwise, when I buy whole chickens, I wouldn't just get a tiny little bag filled with them shoved inside. Instead, I get - you guess it - mostly muscle meat and bones with fat, skin, and connective tissue. So if nature intended for my dogs to be eating "by-products" as the main component of their meals, nature would've made animals more by-product-filled and less meat and bone filled.
Therefore, I believe dogs should mainly be getting meat and bones as the main component of their food, NOT organs. Organs and by-products play their part and a very important one to be sure. But it is not meant to be their sole or primary source of animal protein.
I used to know some raw feeders on another list who fed their dogs whole chickens with feathers still attached. They posted some pictures and you could see the dogs devouring the chickens, feathers and all. There were a lot of feathers scattered around the area though. I suspect most of the feathers were pulled out.They probably don't want to wrestle with the muscle meat with the feathers attached.